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Mon Dec 24, 2007 10:28 am

After an unsuccsesful attempt at making my cannon shoot snow, I have been thinking about ice. Ice will not break apart after leaving the barrel like show does, and is completley biodegradable (duh). My cannon has a small 1" dia. barrel, so i have mounted a small section of 1" dia. pvc on a wooden stand and it is in my freezer full of water right now. If the barrel is heated up slightly, the outer layer of ice would melt, causing the ice to hydroplane through the barrel! I think it would get good velocity. When it is frozen i will test it. Maybe post some damage pics too...
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Mon Dec 24, 2007 10:30 am

With snow, I would suggest a sabot or wadding and use a large (2" or 3") barrel. Be careful heating the pvc. It is better to lubricate it before it is placed in the freezer.

But it does make for very nice damages
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Mon Dec 24, 2007 10:34 am

I would love to see some damage pictures of this. I thought about doing this but there has been only one snowfall here the whole year. Be careful with pvc in the cold, I'm assuming you're using a pneumatic because a combustion won't shoot ice, don't drop it and warm it up between shots
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Mon Dec 24, 2007 11:14 am

Why wouldn't a combustion shoot ice? Get a good chunk and it's not like it's gonna melt. I think you'd be better off just dipping th eice in warm water rather than heating the barrel, but if you do go with the latter, I'd suggest a rag or washcloth soaked in hot (not boiling) water. Ice would make a good projectile. The density is good and it's about as hard as concrete.
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Mon Dec 24, 2007 11:46 am

Damn yeah i slugged some ice in my combustion one night.
Went off nicley!
You have to wipe the littel bit of water out of the chamber but its no biggy anyways! Um yeah ice dose very interesting things to road/traffic signs cenzo.
ummm yeah not giving you any bad ideas hey. you didnt hear it from me!!

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Mon Dec 24, 2007 11:48 am

Haha, nice. If you wanted, you could make a little wax paper sabot for the ice and minimize the amount of water that gets into the chamber.
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Mon Dec 24, 2007 11:55 am

Yeah i thort about it!
But at the end of the day when your gettin the ice out of the esky to shoot coz you just drunk and then fired the last beer.
One is generly not with cognitive thort. and speaking pure drunkerneese with a scottish dierlect. Oh yeah did ya see that?? Blew a hole rite thru the thing over there.....yeah over there......oh sod off ya twit!
Yeah i dont in any way indorse spud gunning whilse inebriated!!
But it is fun!!

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Mon Dec 24, 2007 11:58 am

Well I'll second that suggestion, there's a lot of things I wouldn't suggest you do whilst inebriated. Not that I have any personal experience with them mind you.
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Mon Dec 24, 2007 1:21 pm

Be careful heating the pvc. It is better to lubricate it before it is placed in the freezer.
I don't mean heat it up like with a f-ing blowtorch, just keep it inside until you're ready to shoot ice.
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Mon Dec 24, 2007 2:17 pm

Make pykrete and shoot that. Post pictures.
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Mon Dec 24, 2007 2:25 pm

I agree with PVC Arsenal, pykrete is much stronger and takes FOREVER to melt. Just search it, i think there are quite a few topics on it. Good luck, cant wait to see pictures. :wink: :D
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Mon Dec 24, 2007 2:57 pm

Ive done this a lot, I used excess pieces of my barrel size and filled em' with water and froze them. Actually in my freezer right now is a 20 gauge shell filled with ice :D Also don't ask me why I have stuck a pickle in some pvc and in the freezer, you pop it out and you've got a pickle slug! Freeze potatoes also :D :D
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Mon Dec 24, 2007 3:11 pm

Ice makes great ammo, and with a powerful cannon it turns into shrapnel when it hits the target, greatly adding to visual effect. I have some 3" bore, 12" long ice slugs in the freezer, but I can't test them until it warms up (because setting up the SCTBDC in the cold is a real b*tch).

As far as actual damage goes though, Pykrete would easily beat ice.
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Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:17 pm

Ice works great! Specialy for old phones frozen in the ice
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