but anything in the meantime is of course pure speculation.hectmarr wrote:You have to make many weapons, because this field is long and short life
Some people hope their premises are true. I would surmise this is where we get "spiritual" beliefsal-xg wrote:Who doesn't?
hectmarr wrote:You have to make many weapons, because this field is long and short life
Exactly, the first tenet of naive realism.al-xg wrote:Who doesn't?I think my views are supported by logical argument, in as much as I believe my premises to be factual.
Interesting point:POLAND_SPUD wrote:an article on sex ratios, feimnism and stuff
http://glpiggy.net/2009/09/08/sex-ratio-reconsidered/
I've often pondered this, there will surely be a time in the non-too-distant future when these things will be indistinguishable from real women: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RealDollOn the other hand (literally), how much and for how long do men utilize porn to offset the effects of high sex ratios (i.e. to what extent does porn substitute for flesh-and-blood females)?
hectmarr wrote:You have to make many weapons, because this field is long and short life
Well that could work either way, if you can grow female reproductive cells in a lab you can do the same for male reproductive cells. Considering it would be much easier to grow male reproductive cells and implant them in females than to grow a baby fetus in a lab, men would be at risk of extinction far quicker.Femminists have long been saying that men are now obsolete but once babies can be grown in a lab and men's sexual needs can be met otherwise it might be women who find themselves on the way to extinction
You're missing the wood for the trees, who designed and built and maintains the lab and everything inside it? The only way your scenario of male extinction would be plausible if we managed to make self replicating and maintaining robots to replace male functions in the industrial sphere, but at that point I suppose we would be talking of human extinction regardless of gender.MrCrowley wrote:Well that could work either way, if you can grow female reproductive cells in a lab you can do the same for male reproductive cells. Considering it would be much easier to grow male reproductive cells and implant them in females than to grow a baby fetus in a lab, men would be at risk of extinction far quicker.
I'm not arguing for the erradication of any gender, don't get me wrong. I'm just saying that if I had a sufficiently realistic sex-bot, I would likely not associate with actual women at allHowever, I can't picture a not-so-distance future in which growing babies in a lab is a wide-spread practice, men are in a position to force women to extinction, and men feel the need to force women to extinction. Also, heterosexuals will have emotional needs that can't necessarily be filled by the same sex.
if cats can fill emotional needs, good enough androids certainly can.Agreed.I don't think either gender will ever have the power, nor the will, to kill off the the other sex. If we got to a stage where such a thing is possible, I'm sure we would find away to kill ourselves off through much different means.
The ones that actually call for men to be "phased out" are indeed the fundamentalists, but the whole "girl power"/"strong smart independent women" movement is a mainstream view which essentially says the same thing without calling for gendercide.By the way, who are these 'feminists'? I'm sure there are feminists out there who are open in their dream of a world in which men are obsolete, but surely they're fundamentalists. I can't argue that that particular spokesperson is not a feminist, but it doesn't seem right to carry that generalization when making that particular point if the majority of feminists don't share that view. I wouldn't represent the views of Pat Robertson as "Christians have long been saying..." but rather "some Christians" or "fundamentalist Christians...". I'm sure you can dig up a few feminist books that flaunt their misandry but the typical feminist doesn't share those views in my experience.
Mind you don't take it too faredit: Goddamit I hate it when I identify too much with Mark from Peep Show, he watches Das Boot with a girl in one episode.
hectmarr wrote:You have to make many weapons, because this field is long and short life
Nahhh this part is better ->Interesting point:
Interesting conclusion - but women are in college for just a few years - would feminist movements have ever emerged in the first place if there was a real shortage of men in the USA ??Krueger and Schemmeler et al correctly predict that low sex ratio societies will foster feminist sentiments due to the relatively high value of men in such societies. There is no coincidence, then, that feminist movements have been fostered in female-biased college campus “societies” and Eastern-seaboard cities
This is nearly enough to explain this whole debateI would likely not associate with actual women at all
But whatever they say, they'll still, for the most part, be looking for men for companionship or sex.but the whole "girl power"/"strong smart independent women" movement is a mainstream view which essentially says the same thing without calling for gendercide.
It summarises my position certainly. I'm not sure I would be diagnosed as a dysfunctional sociopath for holding it, but I see it as deeply rational. Whether it is "naive realism" or not is ironically a matter of opinional-xg wrote:This is nearly enough to explain this whole debate
Me neither, but given the option of living with an actual woman or cat + realistic sex-bot, give me Mittens and the iSlut every timeI don't want to live with cats!
Precisely, so why should their double standards be tolerated, let alone protected?But whatever they say, they'll still, for the most part, be looking for men for companionship or sex.
Sexier in JapanAlso
hectmarr wrote:You have to make many weapons, because this field is long and short life
Well no, I think is is quite a common situation.I'm not sure I would be diagnosed as a dysfunctional sociopath for holding it, but I see it as deeply rational.
In a similar way, they're talking about bringing back bands using old footage combined with generated scenes.Sexier in Japan
What, the Frenchal-xg wrote:But there are also people who even if they had an infinite supply of free of charge prostitutes that they never had to see again
That's an interesting point, and indeed my personal sample size is dwarfed by the total female population of the planet, and selected based on my personal biases.I often find that the women that tend to complain about all men being the same, always seem to pick the same type of person that acts out in just the way they hate. Men do it also. It seems some people get wiser about this, some just don't and end up complaining about their marriage.
Fair point, but even leaving sexuality aside I would a priori much rather have a male room mate than a female one. Much more for work colleagues.Living with someone will sprout tensions but I don't believe that living with someone of the same sex would resolve this.
I find that works for the first couple of months before things fall into a familiar mould...Just as with finding friends, every now and then you just meet someone with whom you get on and things seem effortless (which is far from being the case with a large majority of people). These events are rare, and can be even more so in some environments.
hectmarr wrote:You have to make many weapons, because this field is long and short life
