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new idea?

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:43 pm
by jon_89
what if you put a burst disk after a sprinkler? would this have performance gains?

Re: new idea?

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:46 pm
by Novacastrian
jon_89 wrote:what if you put a burst disk after a sprinkler? would this have performance gains?
I could see gains if the burst disc was rated to within a couple of psi lower than what you are charging your gun with, however are the gains suffiencent enough to warrant the hassle of changing a disc after every shot- probably not.

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:46 pm
by benstern
I have done this. And while performance increase might be debatable, it makes it louder and cooler.

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:49 pm
by spudgunnerwryyyyy
It makes it louder and thats really it. Burst disks are use in combustions to counter act bad c:b ratios. On a pneumatic there is absolutely no reason to do it.

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:51 pm
by dapallox1
Lol, I already started a thread on this about a week or two ago. I haven't gotten any chances to test out the different variables though.

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:52 pm
by spudgunnerwryyyyy
Well since there a consistent pressure in the chamber i see no use.

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:55 pm
by jon_89
wont it act kinda of like a triggered burst disk?

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:57 pm
by Hubb
This will have virtually no noticeable performance gain, however, it will make it louder (if the right disc is chosen). It works great for cartridges that contain the burst disc so all you have to do is change the cartridge.

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:57 pm
by benstern
My motivation for doing it was to compensate for valve opening time...

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:57 pm
by Novacastrian
jon_89 wrote:wont it act kinda of like a triggered burst disk?
Yes, only suitable for slow opening valves though. (there would be an advantage if a ball valve was being used)

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:01 pm
by Hubb
benstern wrote:My motivation for doing it was to compensate for valve opening time...
Initially, that's what I thought, too, thinking that performance would be gained. However, I did not notice anything other than being louder (which is ALWAYS cool :D ). To compensate for having to change the disc, well that's were the cartridges come into play.

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:40 am
by ALIHISGREAT
it could work for short barrels with a slow opening valve, you need to have the valve then quite alot of dead space then the burst disc i think.

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:52 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
In my book louder -> air coming out of the barrel faster -> more power.

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:59 am
by Hubb
jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:In my book louder -> air coming out of the barrel faster -> more power.
Agreed..but by how much. Like I said, I couldn't notice any additional power (but I didn't chrono it either). Maybe the noise was coming from the breaking of the disc.