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auto combustion. wil this work?
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:25 am
by jean
hi tell me what you think please. will this work?
i edit an new version
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:22 am
by wyz2285
Lol I didn't understand your diagram, but even through that it won't work, first the "butane in "port won't allow any butane in,probably you draw the one way valve in the wrong direction. The rest of o-rings I don't understand any of them, I don't see how the reload mechanism work either.
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:45 am
by jean
thanks wyz2285
well the checkvalve is actually a hammer valve.
the greenpart is the moving part.
the orings are glued to the green part.
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:09 am
by wyz2285
This is what I have understand so far:
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:00 am
by jean
ok i am try to describe (ah i missed one green disk in my diagram i edit that)
before you do the first shoot you have to cock the green part (to the left side)
ok
step 1
-the green disk number 1 (right to left) displace the air in the chamber through the gap between the barrel (also green) and the second grey disk
the holes in the first grey disk allow air come in and out so the green part doesn't suck adhere)
-load new ammo
-the thin piston reach the valve and let the butane behind the second small o-ring and stay because the hole (you ask) at atmospheric pressure
-the first small o-ring is to doesn't allow butane reach the chamber
-the big (left) spring is compressed
step 2
-the compressed spring push the green part back
-the chamber fills up with fresh air through the gap
-the small piston push metered butane in the chamber
(now i also added a little thing to the diagram)
step 3
-fire the spark
-the bb/ammo goes forward and left the small holes in the barrle
-the combustion gasses reaches the second and third chamber alias cylinder and pushes the complete green part against the sping and the cycle can begin new
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:24 am
by wyz2285
LOL good luck with it
You need a lath and mill at least to make all these parts, probably you will need a CNC.
Why not just use air? I know some combustion paintball guns, but airsoft? with a small chamber, high pressure air it´s better than combustion, unless you make it hybrid (witch it´s even more work).
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:39 am
by jean
ok maybe scale it up to 4 inch dia
but will the principle work?
coll down ,leaks . open breach wile filling the cylinders other things....
btw it will build out of some sort of plastic and i have acess to a wood lathe
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:56 am
by pneumaticcannons
a wood lathe won't cut it. You need a metal lathe for precision machining.
About the design... it seems
way too complicated. No offense intended. As wyz said(and as gun freak is going to say
) go pneumatic!
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:57 am
by Gun Freak
Full auto combustions are ridiculous. Do you have any idea how easy a full auto pneumatic is?
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:17 am
by pneumaticcannons
Gun Freak wrote:Full auto combustions are ridiculous. Do you have any idea how easy a full auto pneumatic is?
told you so
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:40 am
by jean
ok this isnt building for any airsoft game also it is only just for fun.
funktion before power.
please help me to figure it out
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:42 am
by Gun Freak
funktion before power.
Ok........
Pneumatic for fun
ktion
and power.
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:11 pm
by jean
ok i be willing to build it combustion.
i had build serval pneumatic cannons and combustions.
have a basement workshop (drillpress cutting saw grinders and serval other things) and will try it out.
i won't go pneumatic.
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:23 pm
by Goats spudz
how about pre-loaded combustion or hybrid cartridges and then belt feed them, but still go pneumatic
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:48 pm
by wyz2285
If you really want it combustion that badly, there is a combustion mini gun in the combustion showcase, you might want to check it out, it's full auto.