QEV and shock pump questions

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Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:45 pm

I plan on making a coaxial pistol. I want to make a qev like this one: [youtube][/youtube] but I do not fully understand how it works. I thought about using a modded sprinkler valve but it seems just too clunky for a pistol. I also considered just using a blowgun (which is probably what I'll end up doing). I am going to use 1" pipe for the chamber with a .25" diameter barrel.

That's where the shock pump question comes in. I wanted to mount the shock pump on the bottom of the underside of the gun. But I recently read a thread where someone's shock pump exploded when filling a chamber over 60cc in size. Could someone fill me in on shock pumps a bit?
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Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:03 pm

Have a look at this project as an example of using the a blowgun as both valve and chamber.

Referring to this exploding shock pump story, I would say it was an isolated incident and really a 60mL chamber is a little too much for a shock pump, I usually use mine for less than one fourth of that - even if the pump doesn't explode, your arm will fall off from the effort.
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Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:03 pm

it's a piston valve
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Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:26 pm

jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:a 60mL chamber is a little too much for a shock pump, I usually use mine for less than one fourth of that - even if the pump doesn't explode, your arm will fall off from the effort.
Yep, I totally agree with that now... that shock pump just wasnt built for the kind of use it got :D I'm definitely overbuilding my new pump so most of the components can handle more then triple the pressure I intend to use.
The pump in the incident was not overbuilt at all... it was made for 400 psi max and I took it to the limit every time I used it, thats it.

If you go with something less then 15cc, like JSR said, I think that shock pump would do just fine.

btw. it took me about 150 strokes with that pump to reach 400 psi... my arm didnt fell off but after a few refills it did :D And dont think I was using all that volume for just one shot, it was a crude ball valve multi shot but it worked... got about 7 shots per fill.
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Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:08 pm

for a pistol, I think you should go with a .25 barrel and a .5 chambered co-axial, I recently built a pistol with a .5" x 12" chamber and 5/16" x 12" barrel. It is a co-axial configuration it take 20 pumps to reach 150 psi and is piloted by a blow-gun
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Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:45 pm

if only the video was in english :-(
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Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:29 pm

Stolly32123 wrote:if only the video was in english :-(
Surely it's fairly easy to understand even without sound.
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Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:08 am

piston valve
spring resets the piston and acts as a bumper, there are also quite a few o rings, to reduce pilot volume I think.
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Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:50 am

the video is a self close piston valve,i have watched it a lots of times :)
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