Initially I was thinking of using one to pilot a coax (mechanically hold in place; release sear to let syringe head out of the pilot tube), but it dawned on me they could be adapted for other spud purposes too. JSR had some inspiring designs using them.
I recall reading somewhere that some single stroke pneumatics don't hold full pressure because of soft rubber in the pump head not holding air. If that's true it might also be true that the soft material in a syringe head won't hold pressure for long. Anyone have any experience in this matter before I start casting epoxy reinforcement?
I like to see a pneumatic hold pressure overnight... in case zombies attack first thing in the morning.
syringes for valves
- Anatine Duo
- Specialist
- Posts: 186
- Joined: Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:16 am
- Location: cottage country
- Has thanked: 38 times
- Been thanked: 20 times
- farcticox1
- Sergeant
- Posts: 1080
- Joined: Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:37 pm
- Has thanked: 69 times
- Been thanked: 96 times
That could happen
-
- Sergeant
- Posts: 1064
- Joined: Sat May 07, 2016 3:49 pm
- Location: Argentina
- Has thanked: 273 times
- Been thanked: 276 times
- Contact:
I have used and still use syringes to make pneumatic test valves of all kinds. The longest time I have had a syringe with compressed air is about 10 minutes and I have not noticed that it loses pressure. If the time increases, this is likely to happen, but only a test with a syringe will answer your question safely.Anatine Duo wrote:Initially I was thinking of using one to pilot a coax (mechanically hold in place; release sear to let syringe head out of the pilot tube), but it dawned on me they could be adapted for other spud purposes too. JSR had some inspiring designs using them.
I recall reading somewhere that some single stroke pneumatics don't hold full pressure because of soft rubber in the pump head not holding air. If that's true it might also be true that the soft material in a syringe head won't hold pressure for long. Anyone have any experience in this matter before I start casting epoxy reinforcement?
I like to see a pneumatic hold pressure overnight... in case zombies attack first thing in the morning.
- jackssmirkingrevenge
- Five Star General
- Posts: 26203
- Joined: Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:28 pm
- Has thanked: 569 times
- Been thanked: 345 times
Before I had the facility to machine o-ring pistons, syringes were always my go-to for 100% seals.
I don't think this is the case with syringes - essentially the pressure forces the material to expand again the walls of the cylinder, making it seal even better. What pressures did you have in mind?If that's true it might also be true that the soft material in a syringe head won't hold pressure for long
hectmarr wrote:You have to make many weapons, because this field is long and short life
- Anatine Duo
- Specialist
- Posts: 186
- Joined: Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:16 am
- Location: cottage country
- Has thanked: 38 times
- Been thanked: 20 times
300ish psi
The whole concept is a little odd... I feel rubber either holds air or it doesn't. Soft rubber inner tubes hold air... balloons do pretty well for a day or two. Worst case scenario I can put an o-ringed job into the syringe if the syringe head starts leaking.
I only have one single stroke pneumatic. I guess I could Chrony that after leaving it a day, though it will be weird leaving it actually loaded (I don't think I can open it for loading without retracting the pump head).
The whole concept is a little odd... I feel rubber either holds air or it doesn't. Soft rubber inner tubes hold air... balloons do pretty well for a day or two. Worst case scenario I can put an o-ringed job into the syringe if the syringe head starts leaking.
I only have one single stroke pneumatic. I guess I could Chrony that after leaving it a day, though it will be weird leaving it actually loaded (I don't think I can open it for loading without retracting the pump head).
- jackssmirkingrevenge
- Five Star General
- Posts: 26203
- Joined: Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:28 pm
- Has thanked: 569 times
- Been thanked: 345 times
I don't think you can compare the two, pumpers typically have a parachute seal which isn't the same thing as the rubber plug that a syringe represents.
If you're not comfortable with syringes, there are options for the lathe deprived:
http://www.spudfiles.com/how-to-databas ... 21740.html
If you're not comfortable with syringes, there are options for the lathe deprived:
http://www.spudfiles.com/how-to-databas ... 21740.html
hectmarr wrote:You have to make many weapons, because this field is long and short life